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Mar 27 2006, 0:57

Well, no, it's not going to be another debate about which OS is better. I made my choice, and constantly using Linux, Ubuntu + KDE.
But today I had to boot into my Windows 2k to do some school work(egh, some software is windows-only...), I re-installed my winamp(it was totaly screwed up, and was refusing to play more than one song). I turn it on, put some classic rock stuff on, and... And I'm shocked. It just sounds so much better then when I play it in amarok under linux!! Wow, that came as a surprise. the difference is stunning. It uses my Logitech subwoofer so much more effeciently, the sound is just much deeper, more interesting.
Any of you guys play music under linux? Which engine would you recommend? I love my Ubuntu, but since I have music on 24\7, it becomes a big issue...
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  • db0

    which engine do you use now?

    Mar 27 2006, 9:05

  • mega_codem

    GStream. I tried installing xine, but screwed up somewhere along the way, so i just ended up installing xine player. Is xine better? Is there something else out there that I should check out?

    Mar 27 2006, 13:06

  • db0

    I use the xine engine and don't see a big difference between it and directX. gstreamer, in my experience, has been buggy, so I stay away from it until it stabilizes.

    Mar 27 2006, 14:19

  • tekilla989

    I play all media files with the xine engine. the helix and gstreamer engines doesn't work

    Mar 27 2006, 15:49

  • teetante

    With Xine I have almost gapless playback of MP3s which is worse with gstreamer. gstreamer works but right now I still prefer xine engine for amarok and mplayer for videos.

    Mar 27 2006, 17:08

  • mega_codem

    I found GStreamer to be buggy as hell. Right now compiling xine from source, seems like it's going to take a while... Just listened to some songs with GStreamer - sound is difinately much worse then on windows... Let's see if xine will help. About mplayer - I found that to be buggy as hell either. Keeps complaining about some fonts, can't do fullscreen video(other players handle it perfectly), and extremely slow. I'd rather use xine-ui... Strange, for xine-ui to work I first need xine-lib to be installed. So why the hell doesn't amarok sees xine engine? Lot's of that linux stuff is still a little confusing for me...

    Mar 27 2006, 21:45

  • mega_codem

    Update: amarok rebuild fixed problem with xine. Comparing sound quality now...

    Mar 27 2006, 21:55

  • LieveWalrus

    I use xine too. However, it might not just be your engine, but also, which soundcard? which driver? Which sound system? ALSA? OSS?

    Mar 27 2006, 22:31

  • mega_codem

    Well, I have pice of crap on-board card, which does not support my 5.1 speakers even, but windows uses same hardware, so problem might be drivers. Ok, it sounds better on xine. And actually (in windows now) I found how different music sounds in windows - it just much more bassy, and there is always some base, for some songs it's just really annoying. In xine sound is clearer. Well, just my personal opinion :)

    Mar 27 2006, 22:42

  • db0

    you can use the equalizer in amaroK or the Volume control to increase or decrease the bass if you wish. And you should really think of getting a good sound card. Onboard cards suck.

    Mar 28 2006, 5:11

  • mega_codem

    It sure does, but the new one is like 70 bucks more, and I'm short on cash, and there is always something else to buy... damn :) I adjust equalizer all the time, I wish there was some sort of plugin that would change equalizer's settings according to what music you're playing...

    Mar 28 2006, 5:23

  • mega_codem

    Yeah, I am researching the web, trying to find the soundcard that is best for me... Well, pretty much anything would be better than my onboard piece of crap, but still, don't want to waste my money on some Audigy and then have to buy something else...

    Mar 29 2006, 1:33

  • db0

    Hey! I've got an Audigy (for 4 years actually) and I'm not regretting it ;)

    Mar 29 2006, 5:41

  • mega_codem

    db0: I knew that I would offend someone :D Nothing against Audigy, especially such a veteran Audigy, just heard somewhere that it's not exactly a sound card made for playing music, more like all-around gamer thingy...

    Mar 29 2006, 6:03

  • db0

    I'm also a gamer ;)

    Mar 29 2006, 6:13

  • mega_codem

    Well, I could've guessed :) Ok, so this conversation ain't going nowhere, and I will just go to some bad-ass computer supermarket and will buy myself some bad-ass Audigy2. Ah, I can already start printing out notices for neighbors(gotta love thin walls) - I just added two more speakers. Thanks for you patience and good night ;). And you probably will be happier then ever. Right?

    Mar 29 2006, 6:26

  • HokusPoker

    Wow! I always was using the Gstreamer plugin on my kubuntu (I read, everybody should use GStreamer, it's the future and so on, and that Xine is old fashioned...), then I read this entry, installed the xine-plugin - and now, I'm surprised!! What an improvement! Thanks for the advice ;)

    Mar 31 2006, 16:42

  • mega_codem

    No problem :) Frankly, GStream is a pain in the ass, until it will get fixed - xine is the way to go, imo.

    Apr 1 2006, 0:57

  • DapperDrake

    I'm using amaroK 1.4 beta2 with the xine engine, and it sounds perfect, windows isn't better

    Apr 1 2006, 16:58

  • graham_alton

    I'm still using 1.3.8 right now and have used GStreamer 0.8 successfully - sounds OK. Recently switched to Xine though and that seems to be much better, sound quality never been much of an issue under either.

    Apr 4 2006, 15:49

  • kitschx

    off topic @ mega_codem mplayer is _the_ shit. the bugs you wrote about are easy to fix. mplayer can't go fullscreen because you havn't set up the video output correctly, and it probably complains about fonts because you havn't installed the msttcorefonts package. this will fix it: create a file called config in ~/.mplayer/. $ nano ~/.mplayer/config add the following line to the new file, to tell mplayer to use xv video output as default. the #video out is just a comment. vo=xv #video out you may also add the following line to set what font to use: font=/usr/share/fonts/truetype/msttcorefonts/arial.ttf save the file with Ctrl+O and exit with Ctrl+X. since you seem to use ubuntu gnu/linux, do the following to get msttcorefonts: $ sudo apt-get install msttcorefonts mplayer is most powerful and easy-to-use from the command line. (i suggest you get yakuake if you don't already have it.) remember to use wildcards to make the job easier (see http://linuxcommand.org/lts0050.php#wildcards).

    Apr 5 2006, 13:24

  • munkay

    Maybe I'm missing something here, but there's amarok-xine for amarok, and of course amarok-gstreamer. Any way to tell Rhythbox to use xine? Just want to hear the diff if there is any. And yes I've used Amarok, but I'd just rather stick to rhythmbox for now. Thanks!

    Apr 5 2006, 20:44

  • teetante

    @munkay: There should be a package for rhythmbox-xine coming with yoru distribution. It is definetly possible (but I think there's no easy way to switch between the two engines. You have either installed xine or rhythmbox)

    Apr 13 2006, 14:04

  • mega_codem

    stayput, I should definately check out the new amarok... Tons of free time now, let's play around with them packages... :)

    Apr 13 2006, 19:43

  • sevcsik

    Hi! I have the same problem with my 5.1 speaker. It's not amaroK's fault I think. Under windows my subwoofer is much louder than under linux. I don't know why. I have a Trust Soundwave 2000P speaker system and a CMI sound card

    Apr 15 2006, 16:04
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