Top 100 Non-Prog Albums

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Set 25 2007, 10:42

When rating albums I try to do so in a historical context, that is how an album compares against the entire body of music of similar style. This means that the best album for any given year, which most people would rate with top marks may not receive the same rating in my charts as only the best albums of all time should get the highest ratings... This chart does not include compilations or live albums.

My Ratings:
Note: I vote on a bell curve, anything above 6 is really good, anything much below 4 really isn't :D
9+ - Masterpiece
8 - Incredible
7 - Superb
6 - Excellent
5 - Average

1. (=) Pink Floyd - Wish You Were Here (1975) - 8.88 [+0.04]
2. (=) Pink Floyd - Animals (1977) - 8.60 [+0.08]
3. (=) Jeff Wayne - The War of the Worlds (1978) - 8.28
4. (=) Gazpacho - Night (2007) - 8.24
5. (=) Frank Zappa - Hot Rats (1969) - 8.16
6. (=) Talk Talk - Laughing Stock (1991) - 8.00
7. (=) The Jeevas - 1-2-3-4! (2002) - 7.94
8. (=) Kula Shaker - Peasants, Pigs & Astronauts (1999) - 7.76
9. (+1) Peter Hammill - The Silent Corner And The Empty Stage (1974) - 7.72 [+0.08]
10. (-1) The Mars Volta - De-Loused in the Comatorium (2003) - 7.70

11. (=) The Decemberists - The Hazards of Love (2009) - 7.63
12. (=) Riverside - Anno Domini High Definition (2009) - 7.60
13. (+2) Kate Bush - Hounds of Love (1985) - 7.56 [+0.07]
14. (+2) Prince - Purple Rain (1984) - 7.55 [+0.08]
15. (-2) The The - Infected (1986) - 7.51
16. (-2) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - No More Shall We Part (2001) - 7.49
17. (+4) Peter Hammill - Over (1977) - 7.44 [+0.08]
18. (+4) Peter Gabriel - So (1986) - 7.41 [+0.07]
19. (-2) The Doors - The Doors (1967) - 7.41
20. (-2) Muse - Absolution (2003) - 7.40

21. (-2) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Murder Ballads (1996) - 7.38
22. (-2) Brainticket - Cottonwoodhill (1971) - 7.37
23. (+4) Porcupine Tree - Fear of a Blank Planet (2007) - 7.36 [+0.07]
24. (+4) Peter Hammill - Nadir's Big Chance (1975) - 7.36 [+0.07]
25. (+4) Porcupine Tree - Nil Recurring (2007) - 7.32 [+0.07]
26. (-3) Kings of Leon - Aha Shake Heartbreak (2004) - 7.32
27. (+4) Pink Floyd - Meddle (1971) - 7.31 [+0.07]
28. (-4) Mahavishnu Orchestra - The Inner Mounting Flame (1971) - 7.30
29. (-4) Kings of Leon - Youth & Young Manhood (2003) - 7.29
30. (-4) Michael Jackson - Thriller (1982) - 7.29

31. (+1) Pink Floyd - The Wall (1979) - 7.29 [+0.07]
32. (-2) The Doors - Strange Days (1967) - 7.24
33. (=) Muse - Origin of Symmetry (2001) - 7.21
34. (=) Radiohead - The Bends (1995) - 7.19
35. (+3) Prince - Parade - Music from 'Under the Cherry Moon' (1986) - 7.19 [+0.07]
36. (+3) Porcupine Tree - Deadwing (2005) - 7.18 [+0.07]
37. (+5) Pink Floyd - The Dark Side of the Moon (1973) - 7.14 [+0.07]
38. (-2) Sly & The Family Stone - Stand! (1969) - 7.13
39. (-2) The Beatles - Revolver (1966) - 7.13
40. (+3) Porcupine Tree - In Absentia (2002) - 7.13 [+0.08]

41. (new) Gavin Harrison - Cheating The Polygraph (2015) - 7.10
42. (-7) Antony and the Johnsons - I Am a Bird Now (2005) - 7.09 [-0.07]
43. (-3) The Decemberists - The Crane Wife (2006) - 7.08
44. (-3) Anathema - Weather Systems (2012) - 7.07
45. (-1) Guns N' Roses - Appetite for Destruction (1987) - 7.04
46. (-1) Nick Cave & The Bad Seeds - Henry's Dream (1992) - 7.02
47. (-1) Hidria Spacefolk - Astronautica (2012) - 7.01
48. (-1) Various - Once (2007) - 7.00
49. (-1) Airbag - All Rights Removed (2011) - 7.00
50. (-1) The Pineapple Thief - Variations On A Dream (2003) - 6.99

51. (+1) Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (Melt) (1980) - 6.98 [+0.06]
52. (+3) Pearl Jam - Ten (1991) - 6.97 [+0.07]
53. (+3) PJ Harvey - Stories from the City, Stories from the Sea (2000) - 6.97 [+0.07]
54. (-3) Mike Oldfield - Tubular Bells (1973) - 6.93
55. (-1) Frank Zappa - Waka/Jawaka (1972) - 6.90
56. (+1) Bonnie 'Prince' Billy - I See a Darkness (2002) - 6.90
57. (+1) The Stone Roses - The Stone Roses (1989) - 6.90
58. (+1) Hidria Spacefolk - Symetria (2007) - 6.89
59. (+1) Kula Shaker - K (1996) - 6.89
60. (+1) Gazpacho - Tick Tock (2009) - 6.87

61. (+1) Talk Talk - Spirit of Eden (1988) - 6.87
62. (+1) Hawkwind - Warrior on the Edge of Time (1975) - 6.87
63. (+1) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin II (1969) - 6.86
64. (+1) Manfred Mann's Earth Band - Solar Fire (1973) - 6.85
65. (+1) Riverside - Rapid Eye Movement (2007) - 6.85
66. (+1) Eloy - Dawn (1976) - 6.84
67. (-14) Antony and the Johnsons - Antony and the Johnsons (1998) - 6.84 [-0.06]
68. (=) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin IV (1971) - 6.83
69. (new) Siouxsie and the Banshees - Peepshow (1988) - 6.82
70. (+9) Pink Floyd - The Piper at the Gates of Dawn (1967) - 6.81 [+0.07]

71. (-1) Led Zeppelin - Led Zeppelin (1969) - 6.80
72. (-1) Mauro Pelosi - Mauro Pelosi (1977) - 6.79
73. (-1) Indukti - S.U.S.A.R. (2004) - 6.79
74. (-1) Nektar - A Tab in the Ocean (1972) - 6.79
75. (-1) Christina - The Light (2015) - 6.78
76. (-1) Mike Oldfield - Ommadawn (1975) - 6.78
77. (-1) Tears for Fears - The Hurting (1983) - 6.76
78. (-1) Major Parkinson - Twilight Cinema (2014) - 6.76
79. (-1) Dire Straits - Love Over Gold (1982) - 6.74
80. (+1) Hills - Master Sleeps (2011) - 6.73

81. (+1) Andrew Lloyd Webber - Jesus Christ Superstar (1973) - 6.73
82. (+11) Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (Car) (1977) - 6.72 [+0.06]
83. (=) The Pineapple Thief - Tightly Unwound (2008) - 6.71
84. (+11) Peter Gabriel - Peter Gabriel (Security) (1982) - 6.70 [+0.06]
85. (=) Chris Fry - Composed (2012) - 6.70
86. (=) Tom McRae - Tom McRae (2000) - 6.68
87. (=) Riverside - Memories In My Head (2011) - 6.67
88. (=) The Dears - No Cities Left (2000) - 6.67
89. (=) Godspeed You! Black Emperor - Yanqui U.X.O. (2002) - 6.67
90. (=) Talk Talk - The Colour of Spring (1986) - 6.67

91. (=) Wishbone Ash - Argus (1972) - 6.66
92. (=) Man Man - Life Fantastic (2011) - 6.66
93. (+1) Talking Heads - Remain in Light (1980) - 6.65
94. (new) Peter Hammill - And Close As This (1986) - 6.64
95. (+1) Airbag - Identity (2009) - 6.63
96. (+1) Radiohead - Hail to the Thief (2003) - 6.63
97. (+1) Deep Purple - Machine Head (1972) - 6.63
98. (+1) Riverside - Second Life Syndrome (2005) - 6.62
99. (new) Pearl Jam - Vs. (1993) - 6.62
100. (=) North Sea Radio Orchestra - I a moon (2011) - 6.62

Commenti

  • Mark_H

    I have never accepted the label Prog for Floyd; I know some people do. At the time Floyd were releasing their biggest albums, prog was very clearly identifiable as the sound of bands like Yes, Genesis, King Crimson, Tull etc and Floyd sounded nothing like them - they had a completely unique sound (except for perhaps some of Atom Heart Mother). Today there a many sub-genres of prog and perhaps you could slot Floyd into Alt Prog, Crossover Prog, etc. But for me, Floyd, if any labels are to be applied is Art Rock, Psychadelic Rock, Space Rock, etc, but not Prog Rock... Just my personal opinion. Cheers, Mark

    Set 26 2007, 8:05
  • rand0mnez

    That's just the thing, prog isn't about sounding like Yes, Genesis and King Crimson...

    Ott 21 2007, 3:05
  • Mark_H

    Actually, it is, more than it isn't. The term Progressive Rock seems to be mutating to encompass anything which isn't straight rock and that then retrospectively includes bands like Pink Floyd and more recently, and completely wrongly, IMO, bands like Tool, dredg, Oceansize etc. What use is a label if anyone can qualify and that label doesn't actually tell you anything about what to expect from an unknown band? I am old enough to have grown up with the first wave of prog, when prog *was* Yes, Genesis, King Crimson etc Progressive Rock had a very distinctive sound and Pink Floyd weren't prog, they were doing their own thing - they were The Floyd; psychedelic, spacey, arty, etc, but most definitely not prog. It's only over time that the label Progressive Rock, with the various waves of prog, that it has become more diluted so that bands like Floyd have been included by some people. But like I said, I am old enough to remember first wave prog, and that is the style that I refer to when I consider the label Prog Rock. Floyd weren't prog then and they aren't prog now.

    Ott 21 2007, 8:44
  • MusicalSalmacis

    I don't think that Prog is about sounding in a specific way. I think Prog is about Progressing, inventing, and blending different genres together to fuse an unique sound which cannot be classified any other way.

    Mar 15 2008, 12:33
  • Mark_H

    That becomes too generic for my liking. Music has labels, just like other areas, so that people know what is being referred too when the label is used. If progressive is simply a catch-all for anything which hasn't been categorized yet then it becomes a useless label. Telling me a band is progressive then means absolutely nothing beyond the fact that nobody has given them a more descriptive label yet and you then get useless comparisons like Genesis = Prog = dredg (listed on ProgArchives, so they must be prog!)

    Mar 15 2008, 13:13
  • MusicalSalmacis

    yes, because ultimately prog is not a genre at all, same thing with say, indie. prog is more of an approach when composing, kind of the opposite of the pop approach. surely you can't expect every fan to sound like Yes to be classified as prog!? I'd rather classify those kind of band as Symphonic Rock to be honest!

    Mar 22 2008, 10:37
  • MusicalSalmacis

    meant to write every band*, a bit tired sorry

    Mar 22 2008, 10:39
  • Mark_H

    But historically speaking PROG *was* a unique genre, in the same way as in fact INDIE was; when Indie first came on the scene it was very easy to spot an Indie band and if you labelled a band Indie you knew exactly what to expect. It's only with time as the music defined by those genres evolve that the labels are abused and start to become too generic and meaningless and new labels are needed. This is why band like Yes, which (are) *were* Progressive Rock now find themselves in the category you note, Symphonic Prog (and this is fine as if I see a band labelled Symphonic I know exactly what to expect) However that doesn't stop me personally equating *Progressive* Rock with bands which sound more like Yes and their ilk and less like Tool, dredg etc which might be progressive compared to straight rock acts but are not *Progressive Rock* in the historically documented sense (http://www.progarchives.com/subgenre.asp?style=4)

    Mar 22 2008, 10:58
  • Winand

    to me Pink Floyd is more prog rock then Genesis i agree about dredg though, they are not prog imo Tool on the other hand is imo, the song Reflection is a good example of that

    Apr 4 2008, 18:26
  • Mark_H

    How would you classify Genesis?

    Apr 4 2008, 18:47
  • Winand

    there first albums prog rock, and later on more pop

    Apr 5 2008, 11:16
  • Mark_H

    Ah, ok. Well I totally agree. When I refer to Prog Genesis I usually think of the Gabriel-era. When he left things turned Pop very quickly.

    Apr 5 2008, 12:00
  • Winand

    but still if it wasn't for Pink Floyd, I probably would have never discovered Prog Rock

    Apr 5 2008, 12:33
  • Szej-hulud

    The Dark Side Of The Moon (2003) ?

    Gen 25 2010, 21:56
  • Mark_H

    Thanks - absolutely no idea how that got mis-tagged as 2003!

    Giu 18 2010, 8:07
  • skiesrblue

    Big Big Train not Prog? :)

    Apr 9 2015, 15:13
  • Mark_H

    Good catch, Doug - I've broken something somewhere... will fix!!

    Apr 9 2015, 15:20
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