fair enough. I guess vex'd was more a product of the genre circumstances, now both are doing their own thing (even though cloud seed was vastly different to degeneration and the 12''s and forshadowed some of the things to come. "bombardment of saturn" is still a masterpiece). "life cycle.." is really an immense record btw.
hadn't listened to it in a long time, but put on some Vex'd today, and man, this guy either beefed up his game tremendously, or that Teasdale fellow held him back, as that is some unengaging stuff, especially compared to this