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  • Poisonnation

    This is better than both Nepenthe and Famine, imo

    10 Feb 2014 Rispondi
  • ProgPro96

    One of the best choruses Mike ever composed. [2]

    7 Ott 2012 Rispondi
  • arglactable

    Of course, whether the DVD's are lossy or not is much pretty irrelevant, given how minor the improvement in 16/44.1 is compared to high quality mp3's from the same master. Cut sure, bit rates are fun.

    28 Apr 2012 Rispondi
  • BlackLodgeDwarf

    One of the best choruses Mike ever composed.

    1 Dic 2011 Rispondi
  • jsnruf

    familiar voices pee pee behind the wall of sleep

    30 Nov 2011 Rispondi
  • jelb0

    Anyone notice the small 'blurb' of water @ 1:44? Weird :O

    8 Nov 2011 Rispondi
  • Kapper_Rocks

    seriously, how did this not make the album?!

    3 Nov 2011 Rispondi
  • snowdog62

    shudda been on the album ffs! Dump Slither and replace it with this.

    17 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • Python777

    I got the Legacy Edition of Blackwater Park the other day. The surround mix is also in DTS. It's lossy, but it's still pretty damn good. The mastering is way better and it's not as loud as the CD and has more dynamics: http://www.dr.loudness-war.info/index.php?search_artist=opeth&search_album=blackwater+park

    12 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • JBThazard

    Odds of that happening are super unlikely.

    11 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • jelb0

    Yeah, Still Life's DVD contains DTS surround and AC3 stereo audio, both lossy. Yeah, I hope Pyre gets released as a FLAC some day :)

    7 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • Python777

    No problem. The only other Opeth DVD I have is the surround mix of Still Life, which is encoded in DTS (also lossy). I think that, unless it's an actual DVD-A, most of the audio encoding on DVD's is done lossy. There are couple of exceptions in my collection though, like Dream Theater's Score DVD: that one contains a lossless PCM stereo mix.

    6 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • JBThazard

    I was just making sure you didn't think that anything digitized is lossy, never mind then. And I extracted the tracks using DVD-A Extractor as well, but I just chose FLAC since I assumed they were stored as .wavs. Do you know if any of the other Opeth DVDas are retardedly stored similarly? Namely the remastered albums with 5.0 or 5.1 mixes.

    6 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • Python777

    @JBThazard The way the songs were recorded doesn't have anything to do with how they are stored on the DVD. Pyre is stored on the DVD in an AC3-coded version which, by definition, is lossy. My definition of 'lossy' isn't any different from yours I suppose: MP3 is lossy, FLAC is not. However, if the source is MP3 and it's re-encoded to FLAC, it's still lossy of course. I've used DVD Audio Extractor using the 'direct audio stream' feature. So I definitely ripped it exactly how it's stored on the DVD. I'll upload a screenshot later if you want one, I'm at work now and can't get through the firewall. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dolby_Digital says that 448kbps is the maximum bit rate for AC3-encoded audio on a video DVD (which the bonus DVD of Heritage is - a video DVD).

    6 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • JBThazard

    Python777, can you confirm this with proof? Beacuse, to me, it sounds like maybe you're implying that the definition of lossy is anything that is not recorded with analog, or vinyl. If you watch the Heritage Documentary, Mike says that the entire album is digitally recorded, INCLUDING Pyre, the one song he demonstrated to us on his computer. So either by this semantic definition of lossy (anything digitized, with a sampling size, sampling/bit rate) BOTH the CD and DVD are lossy, OR you just happened to extract the files improperly and have only seen a bit rate for them as high as 448kbps, unless obviously you have some article or whatever to corroborate your claim. Besides, the highest possible bit rate for a lossy track in 16/48 is NOT 448kbps, it's lower (well, assuming you ported it to 2 channels, which you would have to since the bonus tracks are not offered in 5.1).

    6 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • jelb0

    Amazing song!! Indeed the best if not the best of Heritage :) I'm glad I got the Special Eidition so I could rip the .ac3 file ^_^

    4 Ott 2011 Rispondi
  • Python777

    @ David_J1973: you're also listening to a lossy file. The song is stored in ac3 format on the DVD (48kHz, 448 kbps) so no matter how you get it off the DVD, it's lossy.

    29 Set 2011 Rispondi
  • Resifreak

    Should've been on the record, as it is one of the better songs of this recording session

    28 Set 2011 Rispondi
  • Gillywibble

    This is quality.

    26 Set 2011 Rispondi
  • JeffersonBV

    Should have been placed in the main album in place of Slither. A RJD tribute is cool but it doesn't fit the main album.

    26 Set 2011 Rispondi
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