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  • accidentXprone

    yeah except it's not accurate

    16 giorni fa
  • coolemo

    thank god someone finally changed the bio

    21 giorni fa
  • isitbeer30yet

    meh

    23 giorni fa
  • cd_RW

    no longer a fan of this band. they're not fun any more. would anyone like to purchase a few tshirts i have of theirs?

    mese scorso
  • precioussilence

    Totally needs a EU tour. This band is killer.

    mese scorso
  • colderskin

    I actually get that point; I go to shows to escape to music in a live setting with those around me and being involved in a mosh pit allows me an experience I don't get anywhere else. I understand what you're trying to say and it's important that you corral that emotion to understand the perspective of others. It's tough to suppress something that never felt wrong before. Respect.

    mese scorso
  • diamond_tough

    \\/ BOTY (badass of the year)

    mese scorso
  • GoodGoodNotBad

    That's said, I can respect the band and their stance on stage diving. But I'm the kind of fucker that loves riding dangerous MR2 vehicles in rotary engine turbos drinking jolt cola riding over an interchanging highway down to hell staring the grim reaper in the face kind of guy.

    mese scorso
  • GoodGoodNotBad

    I wanted so bad to stage dive when I saw them live. Not to be an affront to the band and the crowd, but because I was capable of doing so. I never feel like suppressing myself at a show; I want to be all out crazy, and somehow that kind of cockiness leaves others to perceive me as rude or selfish. Like, damn... I'm polite so often, over time I noticed how much work has made me a snoozefest. I'm not sounds crazy for crazy sake. I'm just crazy over music.

    mese scorso
  • HoxtonTom

    Mosh shaming

    Ottobre 2014
  • eyeslikefireee

    OPINIONS.

    Ottobre 2014
  • victimofkratina

    bleh..

    Ottobre 2014
  • colderskin

    This is where I disagree with you. Push pitting is almost always an isolated act in which everyone who participates wants to participate. It is not in anyway the same as stage diving on top of a bunch of people. The whole issue is crowd energy isn't the problem - it's physically harming people who don't want to partake in certain acts. Almost every pit I've been involved with has put the safety of others first and only involves those who want to be. If someone falls down, you pick them back up. It's just a matter of being an asshole or not. I'm not ashamed for being involved in and enjoying mosh pits and I won't ever be. That is not the issue here. The issue is stage diving.

    Ottobre 2014
  • diamond_tough

    moshing is just so passe... I mean people still push in the pit... it's just so shamefu! A band has every right to ask the audience to not mosh, they took time out of their lives to go on tour, spent their own money on gas and put their transportation and gear at risk to bring you a show so why shouldn't they ask the audience to refrain from certain behaviors? Fans can be so entitled it's like "bitch I'm buying your merch so I can do whatever the fuck I want to do." And if you push pit and crowd surf you SHOULD be ashamed of yourself.

    Ottobre 2014
  • FoolmeThrice

    If you've come to fight, get outta here You ain't no better than the bouncers We ain't tryin' to be police When you ape the cops it ain't anarchy

    Ottobre 2014
  • colderskin

    That's the problem: yeah it may be inconsiderate, but it isn't "jock shit." Man, punk is only inclusive on paper.

    Ottobre 2014
  • diamond_tough

    I'd always just kinda duck down when stage divers went over me, kinda causing them to fall... no regrets, I didn't catch a guy who thought it'd be a good idea to stage dive (head first) into concrete, he got knocked the fuck out. I'm not going to risk injury just to see a band, jock shit is stupid save that shit for a slipknot concert... do kids really just mosh to every band no matter what style they play? Lame. Shows aren't football games lol

    Ottobre 2014
  • colderskin

    Well the issue is stage diving more than crowd surfing and should be considering it's more dangerous. Also though fueled by a small girl getting injured it isn't a gender issue. It's an etiquette, don't-be-a-dick issue. Band has stated they have no problem if everyone is on board. Just hasn't been the case and consistently isn't.

    Ottobre 2014
  • FoolmeThrice

    Stage-diving and crowd-surfing is selfish bs. It's not about enjoying the concert, it's about literally putting yourself above other people and putting your fun before them. Watching girls get kicked in the face and their necks almost snapped isn't very fun. I don't even care if that's not the issue of the debate, I've always fucking hated it.

    Ottobre 2014
  • colderskin

    I Paid Money To See This Band Therefore I Have The Right To Jump On This Small Girl's Head

    Ottobre 2014
  • WeAreLions

    What makes you think that bands should have the ultimate say? On a more theoretical level, think about the fact that fans are, essentially, commissioning a service from the band and the show is, therefore, the fans' product and experience. In my mind, that creates a much greater sense of ownership on the fans' end that on the band's. And beyond all of that, there's a huge distance between disapproving of stage diving, and personally shaming an individual that you think shouldn't be stage diving in particular. Really, really whiny and I daresay diva-ish of them.

    Ottobre 2014
  • MetalSabe

    Bands should get to decide what's acceptable behavior at their shows. It's not a debate about whether or not stage diving is an acceptable practice in general. They don't like it and its really not a big deal to hold off on stage diving anyway. Joyce Manor gets the final say on whats in play at a Joyce Manor concert. When I went to see them at Rough Trade NYC I got kicked in the head by a stage diver. It wasn't a big deal for me personally but you'd have to be an asshole to not see why someone wouldn't be cool with that at their shows.

    Ottobre 2014
  • ThisCharmingBoy

    It seems like stage diving has been a Constant Headache at Joyce Manor shows lately.

    Settembre 2014
  • diamond_tough

    I hate stage diving too

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    then, what I'm guessing is an isolated incident like that was something to address but nothing to freak over, but multiple incidents where the same thing kept happening warranted this type of response. I saw videos of their show in NYC where they asked certain dudes who were going a bit too nuts to chill, so I'm guessing as the tour went on more injuries occurred. If that's the case, it sounds they handled it completely perfectly (besides the off-color comment).

    Settembre 2014
  • rustedembrace

    I wasn't really trying to make any point like that tbh. Just was throwing those 2 thoughts out there. One of the injuries actually happened during that show and they asked everyone to be nice to each other in between songs

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    rusted embrace: because one girl was doing stage dives doesn't invalidate the point. I'm assuming this was before they witnessed multiple injuries which is the reason they started asking for no stage diving in the first place. Because basement is cool with it doesn't mean joyce is wrong for not being cool with it. Can't believe that needs to be said but apparently, according to your comments, it does. if you don't know the word troglodyte you should've paid more attention in high school.

    Settembre 2014
  • KThxc89

    my username is extremely outdated.

    Settembre 2014
  • KThxc89

    b-b-b-but I wanna be hardcore and jump on weenies

    Settembre 2014
  • desideratum-

    scrubs

    Settembre 2014
  • louiam

    no want put on, government pants.

    Settembre 2014
  • rustedembrace

    Last show I went to before Joyce was Basement. Security was trying to stop stage divers (because it was a small venue and I guess they weren't used to having that type of show) and Basement got annoyed at them and was basically like "fuck that, come jump off this stage"

    Settembre 2014
  • rustedembrace

    I was at a stop on the tour with tons of stage diving, including this girl who did like 25 during their set and she was doing front flips and kicking people in the face. They didn't stop the show and pull her back on stage

    Settembre 2014
  • CHASINGXGHOSTS

    vv 0/10 pretty sure you had to look up synonyms for caveman

    Settembre 2014
  • JohnKinggg

    Are you implying that being a feminist is a bad thing?

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    it isnt about crowd surfing you troglodytes

    Settembre 2014
  • rfuv

    sure they give a fuck about you losing respect for them, suppy pop punk bro

    Settembre 2014
  • tippaah_

    crowd surfing is lame, "look at me mom I'm cool, I sure hope I get on a picture now so I can show all my friends on facebook"

    Settembre 2014
  • Mufiz

    Crowdsurfing on Joyce Manor shows is corny as fuck whatosever.

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    https://twitter.com/joycemanor/status/514829696346112003

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    I agree trying to call someone out publicly for doing something generally accepted at punk shows to have fun and enjoy the music and show and not trying to purposely hurt anyone is childish though.

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    PastSanctuary: to be clear, he isn't whining about crowd surfing; he's whining about stage diving. When he falls into the crowd, if you watch the videos, he does so lightly and onto people he sees waiting and willing, doesn't kick or thrash around. I get why you'd think it's hypocritical if you don't do a bit of research

    Settembre 2014
  • colderskin

    eh, I disagree with people against moshing, and I've ranted about this on twitter, but trying to cut down on stage diving due to personally seeing people get hurt really isn't something to condemn the guy for. Considering people that are mad about what he did are using the words "pussy" "faggot" and "fuck you" in comments on the video probably says enough.

    Settembre 2014
  • rustedembrace

    Everything about that was fucked up

    Settembre 2014
  • rustedembrace

    I can't believe I'm saying it, but I think I lost all respect for these guys after that. Give me a break

    Settembre 2014
  • PastSanctuary

    this picture describes why him whining about crowd surfers is ironic https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-xap1/v/t1.0-9/10370357_10153398410318504_7106464815884757644_n.jpg?oh=4ec9ec73b971e21febab0cd7647631b9&oe=54BF1C08&__gda__=1421968221_cb78e0ca02d935528c9177909059eb11

    Settembre 2014
  • PastSanctuary

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LalVmgtcK-U annnnnnnnnd this band just became stupid. at least i enjoy constant headache.

    Settembre 2014
  • Sexcakesss

    Victoria <33

    Settembre 2014
  • CHASINGXGHOSTS

    that bio is awful

    Settembre 2014
  • eyeslikefireee

    haha that bio

    Settembre 2014