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  • metaloly999

    My Favorite band .

    Venerdì pomeriggio
  • PetitSagittaire

    @nicolasbj Do you enjoy smelling your own farts?

    Lunedì pomeriggio
  • dark_wisdom

    v Labrie sounds like he's got tongue cancer anyway

    Lunedì mattina
  • rick-roll

    labrie will join iron maiden to replace bruce dickinson, it is official

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    I respect the pretension for reach objectivity (concept which is inter-subjective and co-created in a social debate), as an abstract and optimal goal. BUT totally different is pretend that YOUR reality; your concrete, limited and relative perception of something (in this case, art) it's part of that desired objectivity. And I repeat, in the very moment that you insult, prejudge or fall into logical fallacies you lose -automatically- the "objectivity" in the discussion about objectivity.

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    You're insulting yourself in the act of throwing "ad hominem fallacies" pretending that are arguments. You can believe in fairytales, but if you want to convince others to believe that you have to give reasons (not fallacies include): a "scientific standard" if you wanna call it, that's how some social interactions work: debates and convincement. My request for studies was rhetorical, of course.

    settimana scorsa
  • PetitSagittaire

    As expected from a Dream Theater fan. Because self awareness and personal experience are sheeps that gotta be sacrificed on the altar of scientific dogma for your reason to bloom. Wait for those studies for sure.

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    You're giving me the reason. Everything you mention are personal and subjective reactions, there is not a transcendental, absolute or immanent meaning on it. "it's the music own universe that affects your inner self": no, it's all in your mind so prove nothing. About those examples, I want empirical and scientific studies that rule out other simpler explanations. I can find an absolute and perpetual idea on, for example, philosophy of ethics; logic; and laws of nature (I'm following Kant in this tripartite) but you kan't (lol) on art until you prove it scientifically, aesthetically and/or philosophically.

    settimana scorsa
  • PetitSagittaire

    “Music directly imitates the passions or states of the soul…when one listens to music that imitates a certain passion, he becomes imbued with the same passion; and if over a long time he habitually listens to music that rouses ignoble passions, his whole character will be shaped to an ignoble form.” [Aristotle] --- There are examples all around the globe like people experiencing mutual telepathy after attending at a Stockhausen concert or feeling a sense of unconditional empathy after being exposed to John Coltrane's paradoxal dissonance. Listen solely to Morton Feldman's Patterns in a Chromatic Field for an entire month, you'll see that it does affect not only your focus capacity, but also your thinking pattern in your daily life. Music is just another way to express ideas, like literature or art in general. Be it basic emotions or metaphysical phenomenas depends on the skill and amount of self implication of the composer into his work. This is what we call "substance".

    settimana scorsa
  • PetitSagittaire

    [what you call "substance" is just when a particular music that you listen in a particular moment resonates with some of your significant memories or personal experiences. There's no such thing as an underlying and transcendent sense in music waiting to be unraveled by some geniuses-of-artistic-and-spiritual-perception.] What a big pile of bullshit. People who project their subjectivity into their listening experience are just one of many examples of lazy listening. To be able to appreciate an artwork in full objectivity recquires practice and self dedication. Music is a more metaphysical and esoteric practice than you claim it to be. Believe in fairy tales or not, when you listen to a composition it's the music own universe that affects your inner self, and not the other way around.

    settimana scorsa
  • OcellatedGod

    By the way, the correct tag for SFAM is Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory, according to both musicbrainz and the official site.

    settimana scorsa
  • OcellatedGod

    I started with Metropolis pt. 2 when I was 14, and it more or less instantly blew me away. Awake took almost a year to get into. So I would suggest Metropolis or I&W for a start.

    settimana scorsa
  • dark_wisdom

    I wasn't hoping for anything in special, just another enjoyable dream theater album, I got complete bullshit instead.

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    I disagree, start with Images and Words or Awake.

    settimana scorsa
  • aldrignedigen

    @MosherSam13, Train of Thought

    settimana scorsa
  • AnarchyBrony

    @MosherSam13, for me, every album is a good start. At least, try Metropolis Part 2: Scenes from a Memory, or A Changing of Seasons.

    settimana scorsa
  • MosherSam13

    Never properly listened to these, what album do people recommend I start with?

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    vv The Looking Glass is a tribute to Rush's Limelight and Images and Words is the more Rush-oriented album by Dream Theater

    settimana scorsa
  • AnarchyBrony

    V Am I the only one who felt like The Looking Glass felt a bit...Images and Words-like? Or is it my imagination?

    settimana scorsa
  • nicolasbj

    v The last album it's a good heavy-prog album -has a lot of Rush and classic references/influences- (maybe you was expecting a metal/progmetal album).

    settimana scorsa
  • dark_wisdom

    I just listened to their self titled album. Naaah man, a pointless album to be honest, nothing remarkable, uninspiring, boring at times, even though it has some good ideas here and there it is overall a completely unnecessary album. I'm not saying the new drummer is not a good one, the guy's style fits this band's music pretty well, but losing Portnoy was a direct hit to Dream Theater's songwriting quality.

    mese scorso
  • sahandhoseini

    The musical level of this band is from another galaxy [3]

    mese scorso
  • anster07

    Check out my cover : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dyS-vrXYDZE

    mese scorso
  • nicolasbj

    v stubborn and arrogant : ) http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=813 ............. http://www.progarchives.com/album.asp?id=814

    mese scorso
  • Dogger_Dog

    v Silly! :-)

    mese scorso
  • nicolasbj

    LOL yes

    mese scorso
  • Dogger_Dog

    v LOL no

    mese scorso
  • nicolasbj

    LTE2 over LTE

    mese scorso
  • WilmaKilma

    Ahoj, najde se tu někdo z ČR nebo SK? :-P :-) Neváhejte a přidejte se a podpořte SYSTEMATIC FANS ~ DREAM THEATER CZ&SK FANCLUB, který jsem založila :-) Zatím se sdružujeme jen na fcb, brzy budou webové stránky a letos už snad ziskame status "Official" :-))). Zde s dovolením posilam link, kde Vas vsechny DT fanousky ráda přivítám: https://www.facebook.com/groups/696633103727766/ Díky za případné sdílení dál, at je nás tam co nejvíce :-) Pokud jsi i na IG, muzes podporit hashtagem #systematicfans. Dekuji a preji fajn den, Wilma

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  • Dogger_Dog

    After I quit caring about speed, I started liking Porntoy's drumming more and more, but I think my favorite Porntoy record is Liquid Tension Experiment's first album. He's all over the place, and in a tasteful way. He seems constrained in DT. ¶ Six Degrees the best for me: everybody shines on that one. ¶ Don't care for the Mangini records, though that piano/guitar shit during the "secret song" at the end of Illumination Theory is staggeringly superb. So yeah.

    mese scorso
  • nicolasbj

    Portnoy is better as composer :)

    mese scorso
  • naturefirst

    Sorry that`s not my opinion . Mike his drumming have a little bit more soul but Magnini are a great drummer anyway . I like both .

    28 giorni fa
  • Indecicev

    Too bad Portnoy became somewhat of a prima donna. Mangini is an overall better drummer, but I'll still miss Mike P.

    Gennaio 2015
  • wareharris

    Dream Theater is what I love about progressive rock/metal: You can listen to a record a thousand times and still hear something new with every play. Scenes from a Memory is my favorite.

    Gennaio 2015
  • nicolasbj

    "In the end it doesn't really matter how you call it. Dream Theater has lost its magic.": I have a context (that complete quote and the other comments) to "judge" (I would say "understand") what you call "magic" in music. Do not take it personal :)

    Gennaio 2015
  • UNITY_fm

    Ah, I see. Now the fake/troll accounts come in handy, huh? 63 scrobbles in 4 years? That's what I call a true music lover.

    Gennaio 2015
  • venusian_sea

    "If you're just here to lecture people" maybe before you complain about others, stop it yourself...elsewhere you try to tell people that taste is not objective and yet here you claim there is some objective quality to music called magic lololol

    Gennaio 2015
  • UNITY_fm

    nicolasbj: I doubt that you can judge what I call "magical". If you're just here to lecture people then you can as well funk yourself! People like you are the reason why "web 2.0" is such a massive fuck-up! If ya don't know what "web 2.0" is: Ask wikipedia.

    Gennaio 2015
  • AnarchyBrony

    v A fucking grand song. In actuality, Black Clouds and Silver Linings is an amazing album.

    Gennaio 2015
  • nicolasbj

    "the next album should feature some growling , blast beats and shit" = A Nightmare to Remember

    Gennaio 2015
  • muerto14

    The musical level of this band is from another galaxy.

    Gennaio 2015
  • Patataja

    The best ever <3 [2]

    Gennaio 2015
  • Tdmanp

    Hey nicolasbj. You sound like a Jon Anderson Yes philosopher. In other words I agree. DT is mind bogglingly amazing

    Gennaio 2015
  • MirelaaJ

    The best ever <3

    Gennaio 2015
  • AnarchyBrony

    Dream Theater is still pretty epic, regardless of anything.

    Gennaio 2015
  • nicolasbj

    Or maybe it's just your subjective opinion. There's no such thing like "magic" in music, it's just your perception of it: Words are particulary motivated.

    Gennaio 2015
  • UNITY_fm

    In the end it doesn't really matter how you call it. Dream Theater has lost its magic. We all know how great they can play their instruments but they somehow forgot how to write magic melodies. All of their albums until "Six Degress" had always a few songs with extraordinary melodies. I believe something happened within the band chemistry. Maybe it's the departure of Portnoy, maybe they're just burnt out. 10 years ago I would have killed anyone saying something bad about this band but in 2015 all I can say is: The magic is gone. Sab but true.

    Gennaio 2015
  • OcellatedGod

    My childhood.

    Gennaio 2015
  • Chaeriff

    Good point, I agree with you

    Gennaio 2015
  • Bamba-Osem

    Images and Words <3

    Gennaio 2015