connections suggestions

And Oceans, Divina Enema, Sigh and Alchemist are in, thanks!
I'd include Grenade Kills 3, but AS hasn't created the artist page yet, I think. Since I can't find any information about them on the web at all (except for the metal-archives.com page), this could get tricky.

However, I'm not so sure about the others. On the one hand, I don't want to be too restricting on the bands that may get suggested.

But on the other, we need a certain theme. Now we have basically 2 groups of bands in here: The one keeping that certain Vintersorg/Arcturus-ish sound, meaning 'chilly', possibly technically demanding, slightly progressive black metal with futuristic sounds...you know the deal. Is it that 'post black' thing you refer to? It's kind of an irony that this is a bunch of bands who all share a pretty similar style when this is a group about EXTRAORDINARY and EXPERIMENTAL and ie. not so common stuff. Avantgarde. But it's like with the term progressive metal - it's not really a description of the music anymore (I'm refering to all the Dream Theater clones) but it rather just became a label for a certain sound over time. That's why I'm keeping these bands.

And then there's the other group, the one that holds truly experimental and progressive bands while not playing almost the same style. Since I want to include both kinds of bands here, it is of course a very subjective matter if one band is fitting or not, especially regarding the latter group of bands.

So, in my opinion Blut aus Nord sounds too blackish and..well, ordinary. But I'm judging based on a sample track, so if anyone votes for Blut aus Nord too, I'll think about it. And maybe give it a deeper listen.

And Mr Bungle, well...
Of course, it's extraordinary. No question. :P But it is not really metal. Especially not the stuff that came after Disco Volante. Yes, you could question the rest. But that's just my opinion. You may argue with me about that :)

The thing is, if we just pick up every band that is mentioned, then in a few months, we'll end up with 20000 bands of which 10900 aren't really special. Or are only considered 'avantgarde' because they have gloomy keyboards and manic spoken vocals. I want the connections to be a guide for others too of some kind, so they can find out about new bands that really set themselves apart from the rest.

And yes, I'll freely admit that there are already a few bands in here that are debatable. Like Sear Bliss, or Antimatter...

Because this whole thing, it's really a problematic topic... You could also say it's silly thinking and discussing about including a certain band for days...it's only a fucking AS group after all. But heh. I really don't know. Maybe I'd just like to hear your opinion on what I just wrote :)

But thanks. For posting as well as for suggesting.

Munin

Jazzy Death Metal:

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• Frederik Thordendal's Special Defects (very jazzy)
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• Necrophagist (somewhat jazzy)
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• Deviated Presence (call themselfs "unstraight)
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• Opeth (less jazzy)
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Okay, in that case I still strongly recommend Fredrik Thordendal -- for he has released one extraordinary, disturbing, freaky album.
The others are very interesting, give them a try.

what about Agalloch
Really good music! But is it "just" Post-Black Metal? is it Avant-Garde? I cannot think of any other band incorporating sounds and structures similar of Agalloch -- maybe it is.

Carnival In Coal. It's Avant-Garde Extreme Metal. You should all check it out. They had even done a cover of the song Maniac (a pop song in the 80's). But believe me, it's so weird... and good!

Certainly Opeth if you've got Farmakon (The latter are often (incorrectluy) accused of being clones of the former), Abberent Vascular are also definitely bizzare enough to fit in. Also try listening to Ram-Zet, Strommoussheld and Love History; all are pretty unique and very strange.

I also feel that Blut Aus Nord deserve a connection only on the basis of their new album, but their older stuff is standard BM, although theychange their style hugely every album.

As for Sear Bliss, there's nothing to debate, they've been doing things very differently from any other Black Metal band for their entire history and get next to no praise for it, good on you for adding them \m/.

In addition to unexpecT, Moonlyght also, not too experimental but I think it fits
Peccatum and Ved Buens Ende should be in,


that's all for now. Zimmer's Hole may also be added :))

Sorry I mis spelt Strommoussheld, I knew they were there because I've listened to them. As for Opeth, the Death Metal aspects of their sound are minimal, any association to the Gothenburg sound has long since been removed, but really no-one sounds that much like Opeth.

haha, yes...I gotta admit that I kind of hold a grudge against Opeth, maybe that's one of the reasons...but I won't argue here about it, I'm doing that every day with a friend who is a huge Opeth fan, haha...

What about Martyr, they should be there i reckon.

Katatonia

Master's Hammer?